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请大家配合一下，所有的1.5问题，尽量在本帖讨论，方便版主管理。( U( @! Z: v1 T

4 d) {. h6 y- p* Y另外，我会在1.5没出来前，在本帖发布1.5会出现的内容给大家，谢谢。
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2 Q% z' O, p1 C3 p  _  {) P' Y8 u特性添加（塞尔柱、花剌子模、伽色尼、古尔）：
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; Q* Z( T/ A" @2 H1-Salar Ghilaman: this man is the commander of the Ghilman (slave warriors) corps in the Ghaznavid army.
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/ [$ f6 F- y5 j5 M2- Ghulam Saray: the commander of the Sultan's personal bodyguards who were mostly of Ghulams.--- Sulatante of Ghazni.
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3- Spah Salar: this man is the commander in chief of the Sultanate's armies--- Ghurids,Ghaznavids,Great Seljuks,Khwarezmids
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0 ~/ Q; z" n& {, p! g2 Q: [4- Khwajah Barzak: literally means the great vizier in Persian,this man is the the great Vizier of the Sultanate,one of the most senior office in the state,besides his administrative duties,some viziers commanded the armies of the Sultanate. Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks6 U# h! r5 |* F9 I$ p# C
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5- Bendar: Land taxes was one of the major incomes of the Sultanate's treasury,this man is in charge of collecting the land taxes. Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish sultanate
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+ |! q; b1 i$ y1 k6- Mustawfi :chancellor of the exchequer.this person is in charge of the Sultanate's Treasury,Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.& X. }0 q0 ?8 J
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7-Selahdar: this person is in charge of the army's treasury,he was assigned by the sultan to pay off the troops,and provide them with weapons and amours, Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.Ayubids9 g/ c' q6 [% g
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8- Akusalar: the master of the sultan's Stables. Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate,Ayyubids
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9- Chief of the Shehna:literally means the chief of the police forces,he's responsible for Establishing Security and law in the city and fighting crime and rebels in the city.----All Muslim factions
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10- Dezdar: a Persian word means the master of the castle,the ''Dezdar '' was appointed by the Sultan to defend the castle,and fortify it's fortifications,he was also the commander of the garrison of the castle---Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.
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12- Khwan Salar: the chief of the cooks. Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.1 f$ G5 M4 r% F! ?
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13- Mua'dib: the private tutor,it used to be that the Caliphs,the Sultans of the Muslim world would hire a Mua'dib to teach their children---All Muslim factions+ t, n( b6 |7 v* S  t2 f" u# t
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14- Naquib Al Mukhtareen: Arabic word means the commander of the chosen,he was the commander of the Sultan's parade body guard---- Great Seljuks
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15- Sunjuq Dar: it's a Turco-Persian word means the standard bearer,he holds the Royal Banner----Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate,Abbasids,Ayyubids4 U; B. p4 o; `

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16- Khazen Dar: this person is in charge of the Sultan's Closet,He prepares the Royal Cloths for the Sultan-----Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.% `0 r4 e( V! N

2 H" x: a+ F5 C* G17-Hajeb Barzak:he is the Sultan's counsel,and the Chamberlain ---Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.
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18- Tughray: the holder of the royal seals,he was assigned to deliver the letter and the messages to the Sultan,and when the Sultan writes a letter the Tughray seals the message with his own seal,so that the message is verified from the Sultan--Ghaznavids,Ghurids,Khwarezmids,Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate.! U' B) v" v" K& d
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19- Qadi al Askar: he's is a judge ruling in accordance with the Shariah law accompanies the army------ All Muslim Factions.
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1 p, a/ w* O" {4 Z3 t2 Q8 W20- Atabeg Askar: The commander of the Army, Great Seljuks,Turkish Seljuks,Ayyubids.. Y: I$ \( X! B) ~

! w( R( x5 r/ p$ t( @& ^* \* ?+ X21-Vice Sultan: this man is the Vice Sultan,he practices the authorities of the Sultan when he's absent from the capital,this office was introduced by the Seljuk,because the Seljuk Sultans were used to be absent from their Kingdoms because of their Military Campaigns against their enemies,it was later adopted by the Majority of the Muslims Sultanates, Turkish Sultanate,Great Seljuks,Ayyubids,Zenghids.0 |) B- D! g: t

' ^) J4 N! I' J; P. Q' H22- Sharab Dar: cup-bearer was an officer of high rank in royal courts, whose duty it was to serve the drinks at the king's table. On account of the constant fear of plots and intrigues, a person must be regarded as thoroughly trustworthy to hold this position. He must guard against poison in the king's cup, and was sometimes required to swallow some of the Drinks before serving it. His confidential relations with the king often endeared him to his sovereign and also gave him a position of great influence.---All Muslim factions.
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6 B6 ]3 a3 ]; D' q( C; H) J* G; D# j' O23- Amid of Iraq:this person holds the office of ''vice Sultan in Iraq'',he was appointed by the Sultan to Govern Iraq,Iraq was a very Important Provence during the Reign of the Seljuk since it was the seat of the Caliphate,Amid's seat was Baghdad the capital, his role was to collect the Taxes,stabilize Iraq,and prevent the Abbasids from revolting,--(Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate).% I9 A, e! f7 c

5 q6 z. E: N5 I' u. E+ \24- the black banner:the black banner was the official banner of the Abbasid caliphate and the symbol of the Caliphate hegemony on the Muslim world,every new Sultan was expected to receive a messenger from the Caliph, holding a black banner with Islamic Shahada written in gold on it,the Sultan had to kiss the banner and recognize the caliph's spiritual hegemony on his kingdom----Turkish Sultanate,Great Seljuks,Ayyubids,Zenghids.Ghurids,Khwarezmids.
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1 ^5 O) k3 i5 y# E8 C25-Mehmen Dar: this persons receives the foreign diplomats and guides them to the palace of hospitality. Great Seljuks,Turkish Sultanate,Ghurids,Ghaznavids,Ayyubids,Khwarezmids.
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26-Kezlar Agha: is the person who protects the Sultan's Harem,he commands many men all of them are eunuchs---- Great seljuks,Turkish Sultanate8 x9 q1 n* ]0 @: B$ u  [
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" j- P( ^8 s7 E5 _% }King of the east and the west: an honorific title which was given to the 古尔/伽色尼/塞尔柱/花剌子模,the caliphs by giving the sultan this title recognize his authority on the lands he rule.5 p' g2 i( W  |) I  c) H
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Shanenshah: Royal title means the king of kings--古尔/伽色尼/塞尔柱/花剌子模/土耳其.
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Al Sultan Al Mu'azzam: the great Sultan---所有的穆斯林国家% p5 l( `, ~+ Z- t( Y, E( v+ y

- n" K" R1 P' `3 hTaj Al Umma: the Crown of the Muslim nation
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Sultan of Islam and Muslim:the Sultan realm is vast,Most of the Muslims live under his domination,everyone recognize his greatness including the Caliph. (title for the sultans only,控制麦加、麦地那、巴格达),+2 authory,3 piety---所有穆斯林国家.
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9 W$ S( s4 J! aAl Ghalebellah: the victorious by God,the Sultan's/Caliph's victory after Victory over the enemies of Islam made him very confident that these victories came from God.---所有穆斯林国家
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Asad al Dawla: the lion of the state,this man had achieved many significant victories over the enemies of the state---所有穆斯林国家.1 d# S  u6 o4 Y8 U  s
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Sayf al Dawla:the sword of the state,the courage and the victories of this man have amazed everyone even his enemies he's indeed the sword of the state.---所有穆斯林国家.% ~3 U4 t- |* K

4 ?. J% y* S5 r" J, [% w4 }Amir al-Mu'minin: ''the leader of the believers'' is the title of the Caliphs.this title was first used by Caliph Umar I (634-644),then it was adopted by the caliphs who succeeded him including the 阿育布,阿巴斯.( q$ u6 Z; n% @4 o9 h
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Al Adil :the fair ----土耳其，塞尔柱,阿育布，赞吉，古尔，花剌子模
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Ghayath-adin: the savior of the faith.- S0 V" \+ f% w0 k
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Nur-adin: the light of the faith
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) s: z) @9 s7 Z* _/ vRukn-adin: the pillar of the faith------所有穆斯林国家
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- f0 b3 l1 X& B! gthe Sultan of Egypt and Syria:the sultan rules both Egypt and Syria,(must capture 开罗, 大马士革)-------土耳其, 塞尔柱,阿育布, 赞吉,伽色尼,花剌子模
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西辽、罗斯、赞吉、阿塞拜疆、德里苏丹国、拉丁帝国将会在2.0第二时代讨论添加，不在本话题之内。
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[ 本帖最后由 萨瓦力克 于 2008-7-31 02:29 PM 编辑 ]

贝贝满赛。。。

他们决定了2.0要有罗斯和拉丁帝国吗？$ e6 M  D9 p! r/ y5 ?' j+ g

( w5 s9 Z, g1 f' P倒是和我想的一样，加强MOD的文化多样性！

什么时候升到1.5了，我怎么一点也不知道，还在玩1.05

全是英文 ...看了头都大了

我安装BC汉化版，玩不起。。。

支持支持~BC很不错~加油

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0 E5 @) ^. y4 e" y, {一方声称 女人不上战场，不能因为一个特殊例子而建立兵模  
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一方声称  有特殊的例子  因为应该增加历史风格  ～

1.5出了先看图，等2.0出来后再下...................

支持西辽！支持西辽！！支持西辽！！！

LZ 耶路撒冷的兵 好多没有盾防 是为什么啊

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原帖由 隐士悠悠然 于 2008-6-6 09:22 发表
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正在设计新的东罗马、格鲁吉亚兵种兵模和测试～！9 X) h; _, H6 J: {4 Z
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跳票有理！拖延无罪！{10.gif}& ]% X' F, ?0 _* N3 R$ Y
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关于这方面给点意见啊～

BC兵模的风格自称一体，要坚持自己的特色么。不过说真的，我个人对某些BC东罗兵模不太感冒，感觉整体上不如原版的，倒是耶路撒冷的兵模极好。

蒙古 计划采用全新兵模 完全不一样的感觉
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武器也更新了许多 铁藜藤 、 《蒙古王》双刀骑兵等～( H3 m1 a+ c: g& g( p! ?

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东罗马、古尔、格鲁吉亚已经有新的兵种了8 q3 t2 o( C2 ?7 r( I' \1 f7 X- g
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东罗可算有新兵了，希望能有所好转。以前除了顶级马厩和兵营里的普罗诺尼埃骑兵，北欧卫队和皇家铁甲骑兵，东罗的部队就没有什么强力的冲锋和肉搏单位了。加上又没有弓兵，而且以前占城堡不能造兵的BUG，整个中前期在灭掉土耳其之后就实在郁闷得慌。后面都是和两阿的几十个满编军团搞拉锯战。

还没发布？

期待啊！！希望早日出来。

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All our units were created with a specific ethnic group their ranks were drawn from in mind. We lack for the most part a generic unit that was like the Vanilla Feudal Knight or Sergeant Spearmen whom could have been anyone from Spain to the Steppe, Sicily to Scandinavia. That's why we'll never do away with a basis in the Area of Recruitment System, because it represents this fact that specific troops are drawn from specific peoples of a culture, region, ethnicity, or religion.+ [3 E% O3 z8 L6 L5 `
Janssiaries were recruited from Eastern Christian peoples from the Balkans to Caucasus, thus having swarthier skinned Arab Christians or Black Africans wouldn't work 0 c9 ^, ?7 @* U, M- Y' E7 Y
Ghulams & Mamluks are Turkish, Indian, and East Christian slaves, following the same deal.
0 x  a4 W" e; |/ T2 [Armored Sergeants were created as a purely Frankish Unit, and recruitment of them in a place like the Punjab or Nubia wouldn't make sense. RTR and EB featured recruitment of Greek soldiers in the far off centers of Hellenism, but if or when they can get to the recruitment systems of MTWII they are sure to put a major limitation on the recruitment & replenishment rates of Greek Soldiery, given you typically would have a limited and finite number of hellenistic men while you would have a relatively infinite (By comparison) number of native easterners.  c' s/ R2 a8 O8 z
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Compare the much greater immigration of Hellenistic Greeks to (aside of the Turks) a much smaller rate of immigration, or much more localized immigration (Armenians to Cilicia, Franks from the sea to Outremer, Arabs to the lands outlying the Arabian Desert) of peoples in the Medieval Period and the differences would be stark - Outremer always suffered from manpower problems and could hardly fill the lands out Outremer with Franks the way that the Ancient Greeks could in the east. Nor past the initial caliphate push could Arabs rely on local Arabs for fighting - Why the Abbasids turned to the Khorasanis and later the Ghulams.
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2 ^- I  r8 g* J/ U' o% b. S7 j; s8 e' i6 aIn other words, the rate at which the ethnic peoples that make up a professional non slave warrior soldiery would have immigrated to far off lands would be incredibly small. Recruiting Janissaries (made up of Armenians, Greeks, Balkanites and Caucasus peoples) in Africa would be assuming the Wayan Brothers created a sequel to White Chicks named White Coptics. Anything but a very small number of Frankish Sergeants in India would be strange, given I don't think even the Colonial English had a immense surplus of settling Anglo-saxon citizens in India.9 N4 e4 {+ }8 I$ d) F
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That being said I agree with you when it comes to professional slave warriors, and we have a current system in place that does consider their recruitment's nature. We allow for a more global recruitment of certain Slave warriors though through limited access at major centers of the slave trade and purchase or training of slave warriors.
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9 J7 V7 V- r% _% f) E: M+ |Delhi, Damascus or Cairo for instance would be able to have the means through which to buy slaves acquired in the steppe, India, Caucasus, or Central Asia, whereas a castle like Kerak or a Punjabi city would not. I believe Mamluks are available outside of Egypt's home regions in the same system as the Ghulams. If not, that'd need to be fixed. We'll be releasing a preview in the coming days of the 1.5 preview, and explain how the System of recruitment will work. . h6 g9 n# Q3 B  j+ _$ x1 c

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我们所有的单位建立了与特定族群，他们的行列取自在铭记。我们缺乏为最的一部分，一个通用的单位，像香草封建骑士或警长spearmen人可能会被人从西班牙到草原，西西里岛到斯堪的纳维亚半岛。这就是为什么我们永远不会放弃一个基础，在该地区的招聘制度，因为它代表了这个事实，具体的部队是由具体的人民的文化，地区，种族，或宗教。
3 U$ e  a/ B5 C0 e; n* gjanssiaries招收来自东区基督教人民从巴尔干到高加索地区，从而有swarthier皮肤阿拉伯基督教徒或非洲黑人不会工作ghulams ＆ mamluks是土耳其，印度，及东基督教的奴隶，以下相同的处理。 0 y. {: X% ?2 L+ U- t
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装甲警长创造了作为一个纯粹的法兰克单位，招聘，他们在一个地方像旁遮普邦或努比亚将是没有意义的。 rtr和EB精选招聘希腊士兵在该中心已为期不远了希腊，但如果或当他们可以进入招聘系统mtwii ，他们肯定会提出的一个主要限制对招聘与补给率希腊soldiery ，给你通常将有一个有限的和有限数量的希腊男子，而你将有一个较为无限（比较）的数目本土东。 8 C8 h+ c" X, [

  c5 y4 n; w* u* d# ]比较大得多移民希腊希腊人（预留土耳其人）小得多率人民入境事务处，或更为本地化入境（亚美尼亚西里西亚，弗兰克斯从海上向outremer ，阿拉伯人向地政外围阿拉伯沙漠）人民在中世纪时期的差异将形成鲜明-o utremer一向受人手问题，并可能难以填补地指出o utremer与弗兰克斯的方式，古希腊人可以在东部地区。也不是过去的初步哈里发推动阿拉伯人可以依靠当地阿拉伯人的战斗-为什么a bbasids拒绝向k horasanis后来g hulams。 - m" p1 @9 P. L6 O

9 V" g/ Q& n4 {+ Q在其他换句话说，利率在哪个民族的人民作出了一个非专业的奴隶勇士soldiery将移民到为期不远地将令人难以置信的小。招聘janissaries （弥补了亚美尼亚人，希腊人， balkanites和高加索地区的人民）在非洲将成为假设瓦兄弟创造了续集白鸡命名的白色coptics 。但任何一个很小的数目，法兰克警长在印度会很奇怪，因为我不认为，甚至殖民地英语产生了巨大的盈余，解决盎格鲁撒克逊公民在印度。
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3 J# m% }4 a: m/ t. i既然如此说，我同意你当谈到专业的奴隶勇士，而我们也有现行制度在地方，是否考虑他们的招聘的性质。我们允许一个更具全球性的招聘某些奴隶勇士，虽然通过的机会有限，在主要中心的奴隶贸易和购买或培训的奴隶勇士。 / f4 c  s: W9 _% P. j

  Q% L- Q& Z! h7 w新德里，开罗或大马士革，例如将能够有透过何种途径购买奴隶获得了在草原，印度，高加索，中亚或，而城堡一样，卡拉卡或一旁遮普语城不会。我相信mamluks可以外的埃及的家乡地区在同一系统中作为ghulams 。如果不是，那要需要加以固定。我们将发布一个预览在未来数天的1.5预览，并解释如何系统的招聘会的工作。